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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 17, 2019, 7:02:09 PM
In Reply To @thalassa_gray
@thalassa_gray "he can have whatever opinions he wants. The issue is that he’s ... not thinking about his audience or his effect on people at all. Possibly, he’s just really bad at modeling other people’s responses" https://t.co/7wNGuUpkDs
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 17, 2019, 6:58:05 PM
In Reply To @archaica
@archaica @zeynep holy shit man 🤯
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 17, 2019, 6:33:32 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
the way the top 4 players show up on the minimap is also inspired, encourages top players to fight amongst themseves rather than beginners, and capturing the "bounty" to win encourages more aggressive play versus turtling. The whole thing is genius.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 17, 2019, 6:07:41 AM
In Reply To @codinghorror
to be clear this is a Dark Souls joke
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 7:42:26 PM
In Reply To @TheEvanCarroll
@TheEvanCarroll I can't handle your next level performance art Evan
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 7:41:35 PM
In Reply To @chriscoyier
@chriscoyier or interactively collaboratively edit it with two (or more) cursors..
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 7:32:41 PM
In Reply To @amasad
@amasad @replit ping me via email if you ever want advice on replit! I'm full of .. what one can charitably call.. "advice" 💩
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 7:28:01 PM
In Reply To @amasad
@amasad @replit believe me, I am the #1 proponent of "one website does NOT fit all" because the whole concept is, frankly, bullshit
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 7:25:08 PM
In Reply To @amasad
@amasad @replit all good; beginners need different stuff than non-beginners. Same reason we don't indiscriminately chuck all students aged 2 to 40 in the same room ;) I mean.. you *can*..
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 7:23:59 PM
In Reply To @stevesi
@stevesi @ryandetzel @benedictevans I looked at this extensively, because I didn't believe. And you know how obstinate I can be 🤡. The data is rather conclusive.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 7:10:29 PM
In Reply To @bxlewi1
@bxlewi1 all things are as they should be
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 7:08:43 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
the #1 thing I would do differently if building Stack Overflow today is to predicate everything on live, runnable, interactive in-the-browser code. Granted that was almost impossible in 2008 (especially for "every language") but it is viable today.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 6:38:34 PM
In Reply To @sbscomp
@sbscomp Canada's still a far better choice on healthcare alone, much less school shootings, etc. US should be near the bottom of anyone's list.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 6:31:33 PM
In Reply To @wilshipley
@wilshipley @Carnage4Life everything old is new again!
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 6:24:26 PM
In Reply To @wilshipley
@wilshipley @Carnage4Life Facebook copies its competitors on the regular, as do all competent software companies. See "instagram stories". And browsers were always meant to be free. Hell, *ALL* SOFTWARE is meant to be free, so that's gonna bite MSFT in the ass soon enough.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 6:16:15 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
@wilshipley @Carnage4Life not that MSFT had nothing to improve! Clearly they did, mainly by jettisoning the "strategy tax" and "not invented here" parts of the culture
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 6:15:17 PM
In Reply To @wilshipley
@wilshipley @Carnage4Life yeah but that was always bogus. Oracle was SUPER UNAMBIGUOUSLY evil from day zero. Intel as well. Microsoft was never really evil or shitty in any meaningful sense, unless you're like.. an Apple fanboy from back in the day ;)
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 5:51:52 PM
In Reply To @stevesi
@stevesi we should show some kindness and release him from this hardship!
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 5:15:09 PM
In Reply To @CorstianBoerman
@CorstianBoerman you need to have the hooks for it in the first version at minimum
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 5:14:35 PM
In Reply To @pilattebe
@spacexonaut not exactly, it took a while for state level actors to understand the internet and get to a scale where it "mattered"
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 5:11:38 PM
In Reply To @Carnage4Life
@Carnage4Life same thing happening to the US under Trump. We had a new hire want to move to the US and I asked him "why? why would you move here?"
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 4:35:30 PM
In Reply To @pilattebe
@spacexonaut most people are, but the ones that aren't are like thousand year storms
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 4:34:57 PM
In Reply To @Pv
@Pv @stevesi @benedictevans rules might be different for toddlers. I thought.. rather obviously.. I was talking about adults and near adults.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 4:30:19 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
@stevesi @benedictevans safer and *more* cyclists.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 4:29:54 PM
In Reply To @stevesi
@stevesi @benedictevans this is the same reason lack of bike helmets actually results in safer bicyclists. It's *really* counter intuitive, but the data 100% supports it.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 4:26:29 PM
In Reply To @evacide
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 16, 2019, 12:45:51 AM
In Reply To @DocPop
@DocPop lookin good!
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 10:46:09 PM
In Reply To @Pinboard
@Pinboard eh, you're both painting with really broad brushes
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 6:46:55 PM
In Reply To @notwaldorf
@notwaldorf they might just be outraged that they CANT HEAR OVER ALL THE TYPING
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 1:41:52 PM
In Reply To @shanselman
@shanselman Your tune will change when you fold it around yourself like a warm blanket and get your cup of hot cocoa
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 1:40:24 PM
In Reply To @spies_please
@spies_please @TheDreamGhoul A+++ would watch again
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 1:39:33 PM
In Reply To @kevindente
@kevindente YOU BASTARD
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 12:50:19 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
corollary to this: if you want someone to like you, be nice to their children. It works.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 11:39:20 AM
In Reply To @Carnage4Life
@Carnage4Life Fair, though I think way more women working (versus 1920, 1960, etc) is also a giant factor
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 11:29:03 AM
In Reply To @Carnage4Life
@Carnage4Life I don’t think kids are that much more expensive historically, it’s just more clear that you only need one kid to have the modern experience, not three, four, five..
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 11:24:14 AM
In Reply To @Carnage4Life
@Carnage4Life I don’t think that’s the entire root of declining birth rates though, I mean go back to 1920 and they were pumping out the kids to be farm labor, plus large families were a historical norm because women couldn’t work, etc. lots of factors
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 11:14:58 AM
In Reply To @mcclure111
@mcclure111 @sarahjeong It is actually OK to do this *provided you steal the most useful features and fold them into your product*. Facebook are masters at this (unfortunately). Twitter.. is not.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 15, 2019, 11:13:51 AM
In Reply To @sarahjeong
@sarahjeong What’s especially annoying is that all these (useful!) settings would be VERY easy to implement. There is no legit “oh noes it will take years to engineer this” argument against this.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 11:15:59 PM
In Reply To @jongalloway
@jongalloway GET SWOLE GALLOWAY
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 10:51:40 PM
In Reply To @wsalazar
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 9:33:50 PM
In Reply To @jzy
@jzy and this is a new development because...?
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 9:29:38 PM
In Reply To @mosheeshel
@mosheeshel @IcyTotem 20 years to get to the point where the computation could happen.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 7:35:25 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
Of course now we're on about Web 4.0 or 5.0 and everyone knows the sequels are never as good as the originals
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 1:13:27 PM
In Reply To @Pinboard
@Pinboard I dunno man this zero click remote malware install feature in WhatsApp sounds .. pretty bad
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 1:10:09 PM
In Reply To @stevesi
@stevesi This resonates for me. The true challenge is not to be incredible at a few key junctures, but to be consistently great, every day, *for years*
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 12:01:05 PM
In Reply To @leahculver
@leahculver I’m going for 24/7 rage and mostly succeeding
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 11:11:48 AM
In Reply To @lifesavvysite
@lifesavvy_site I did not say this, it is a quote from a movie.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 9:37:30 AM
In Reply To @tom_bigwood
@tom_bigwood Well, kinda, except all the manipulation was NPR editing in this case. If you had access to the original media, as Lisa did, you might come to a very different conclusion...
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 14, 2019, 9:09:10 AM
In Reply To @ZachWeiner
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 10:25:19 PM
In Reply To @kevinmontrose
@kevinmontrose people were the original mistake tho
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 10:24:40 PM
In Reply To @patio11
@patio11 to me this is so obviously true, the winners win so big that the losers are just statistical noise. Place as many bets as possible, because the bets are incredibly cheap. Really basic vetting (is this person coherent and a go-getter) gets you 90% of the way there.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 9:02:10 PM
In Reply To @Pinboard
@Pinboard Still better than working for Facebook
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 7:52:29 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
@JustinTPriest @MeganRisdal @KeirRice @juliasilge but from the outside it's all "rules suck, man!" so 🤷‍♂️

you know what REALLLLLLY sucks? no rules. Give that a whirl.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 7:47:33 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
@JustinTPriest @MeganRisdal @KeirRice @juliasilge hopefully that helps explain why this little bit of friction is intentional -- the idea is to guide people into actively providing new answers or actively improving existing answers rather than commentary.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 6:18:24 PM
In Reply To @JustinTPriest
@JustinTPriest @MeganRisdal @KeirRice @juliasilge right, if it's an entirely different solution then it should be an answer, shouldn't it? If the programming can be improved, why not submit the change as a pull request, which is conceptually what an edit is for an anon or new user?
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 5:56:38 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
If you're more into text, here's the transcript https://t.co/zgi7O2GdLA
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 5:44:00 AM
In Reply To @textfiles
@textfiles what is best in life, Jason?
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 4:47:22 AM
In Reply To @EzeeT
@EzeeT make sure your TPS reports have a cover page
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 13, 2019, 1:53:57 AM
In Reply To @jongalloway
@jongalloway this is funny because I know exactly what this is subtweeting and I had the same exact thought
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 10:11:24 PM
In Reply To @prahladyeri
@prahladyeri this already exists tho
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 9:59:28 PM
In Reply To @rakshesha
@rakshesha @rod_ @fournachotruths that is exactly what 🦝🦝🦝🕴 would say
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 4:47:57 PM
In Reply To @xchaotic
@xchaotic that's also part of what we're testing
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 4:46:39 PM
In Reply To @tobermatt
@tobermatt @Supermathie never too young to teach your children that snitches get stitches! Prison rules for life!
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 3:40:40 PM
In Reply To @MeganRisdal
@MeganRisdal @JustinTPriest @KeirRice @juliasilge Justin, have you tried pressing the “improve this post” button on each and every question and answer? This doesn’t even require an account. Give it a shot.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 7:40:17 AM
In Reply To @lizardbill
@lizardbill My favorite has always been @spolsky’s “we type words into boxes on the screen”
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 6:59:57 AM
In Reply To @codinghorror
@treasa also looks like the name changed to "software engineering", but some old history here https://t.co/bRiMsuV8A8
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 6:58:45 AM
In Reply To @treasa
@treasa that one is tough, the site has always existed on the knife's edge of "opinion questions" which are murky on the SE engine. An extreme example of this is what happened to Quora, where they set zero boundaries.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 6:32:28 AM
In Reply To @paulg
@paulg it's completely consistent with people voting with their pocketbooks. This will become increasingly important if US representation fails to match the populace, e.g. https://t.co/1ix7222UNI
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 6:27:09 AM
In Reply To @codinghorror
and the community governance patterns we established continue to be inspiring 🙇‍♂️ https://t.co/dOMn9zBrRc
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 6:22:42 AM
In Reply To @codinghorror
This show's reach definitely exceeded its grasp but it was a fun existential ride! cc @drewtetz
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 12, 2019, 12:35:47 AM
In Reply To @qmriis
@qmriis @S0phieH that's actually what we're testing for 4th grade science fair
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 11:33:53 PM
In Reply To @OldDutchCap
@OldDutchCap it's on etsy
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 11:31:20 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
Also you gotta have a good place to store your dice https://t.co/qaswww5HBI
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 11:14:14 PM
In Reply To @SuperDalgas
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 9:22:17 PM
In Reply To @eviltrout
@eviltrout not really, it's more of an experiment about randomness
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 9:16:29 PM
In Reply To @Pinboard
@Pinboard yeah but I hadn't seen it when I typed that, so it doesn't count
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 9:09:36 PM
In Reply To @Pinboard
@Pinboard Next you'll be telling us well, actually, that scream wasn't from some guy named Wilhelm
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 7:53:14 PM
In Reply To @davelab6
@davelab6 @paulg Judging whether someone's idea is reasonable, for some value of reasonable (or unreasonable, if that's what you are looking for) and whether they are go-getters who can achieve things.. beyond the basics, it's a lottery. A rare few will get lucky; place lots of bets and hope.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 6:20:22 PM
In Reply To @paulg
@paulg well right but the main thing you did is enable a lot of others to achieve things, which is indeed 100% laudable but is also 0% programming
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 6:10:27 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
I also love the clever cross-episode references. The airplane model in the mars episode, which has a mars mission ad in the background..
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 5:55:36 PM
In Reply To @migueldeicaza
@migueldeicaza Yeah dudes are AWESOME at social cues. Just amazing at it, really naturals ;)
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 5:52:23 PM
In Reply To @hayeshaugen
@hayeshaugen @migueldeicaza @paulg That's right. The computer in particular teaches some really negative, ultra-pedantic interactions. You become who you hang out with, and that can be either good... or bad.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 5:23:27 PM
In Reply To @paulg
@paulg @migueldeicaza I do agree that success creates backlash though. "a computer in every pocket, always connected" kinda radically transformed the dynamics of computing.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 5:22:36 PM
In Reply To @paulg
@paulg @migueldeicaza You said "Put a lot of ambitious people in one place and they all make one another more ambitious." Guess what happens when you put a lot of pedantic people in one place? Or when they work with a pedant, the computer, all day?
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 4:40:12 PM
In Reply To @migueldeicaza
@migueldeicaza @paulg Ask yourself why there is so much backlash against “tech bros” who seemingly lack empathy. It is a field with significant occupational hazard that will stunt you via “well, actually-izing” — you tend to become who you hang out with.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 4:32:07 PM
In Reply To @migueldeicaza
@migueldeicaza @paulg Is it a tangent? I know exactly the median attitude of every hacker news poster, and they are insufferable pedants. Guess where they learned that from? Their daily co-worker, the computer. It’s a field with significant occupational hazard.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 4:22:30 PM
In Reply To @migueldeicaza
@migueldeicaza @paulg Who did we learn “well, actually” from? Hint: it was not another human.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 4:18:44 PM
In Reply To @codinghorror
@migueldeicaza @paulg Guess who we learned “well, actually” from — the computer, the ultimate well actually machine of all time.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 4:18:13 PM
In Reply To @migueldeicaza
@migueldeicaza @paulg I disagree; a person who can write “I have a dream” has infinitely more agency than a person who can write a Python script. Routing your communication to the computer instead of other humans tends to stunt your growth in that area, as well.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 6:48:36 AM
In Reply To @dan_coff
@dan_coff @paulg describing things to a computer mostly turns you into an insufferable pedant, which is an occupational hazard of the field
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 6:47:32 AM
In Reply To @paulg
@paulg it is convenient for programmers to think that
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 6:44:00 AM
In Reply To @paulg
@paulg They're also super super nice people. That matters a lot.
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 6:41:48 AM
In Reply To @paulg
@paulg @theycallmemorty Code is only useful in expressing an intent. The intent is far more important than the code, and can be captured more succinctly and accurately *outside* of the constraints of code. It's "I have a dream" versus DONKEY.BAS and it's no contest
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Jeff Atwood @codinghorror
May 11, 2019, 6:39:51 AM
In Reply To @paulg
@paulg I mean I guess in the most abstract sense that all knowledge is *somehow* useful, but my primary take on this is that everyone uses running water, but not everyone needs to know how to be a plumber. https://t.co/vcE7INlybI
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