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@anildash @Pekkanikolaus @mjaeckel @spolsky In many of the instances I looked at, people interpreted "they questioned the basis of my question" and "I was downvoted because my question left out critical details" as hostility. That says to me, they're looking for a different environment.

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@anildash @Pekkanikolaus @mjaeckel @spolsky people who livestream their coding on Twitch is a good example of what's coming. Feels super alien to me, but 20-30 years from now this will be mainstream IMO

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@anildash @Pekkanikolaus @mjaeckel @spolsky the primary confusion, I think, is Stack Overflow not properly explaining itself as "for professionals and enthusiasts". Was never designed for people just starting out, in the same way a community college is a very different place than grades 1-6

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@anildash @Pekkanikolaus @mjaeckel @spolsky True beginners need a very different type of product and experience -- active hands on mentoring, screen (or voice) share, and a "no downvotes" sandbox. Even within the SE network there is a split; look at english/english learners, math/mathoverflow

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@Supermathie wouldn't affect SSDs though I assume

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@Beschizza This is among your finest work

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@gknauss wow no CAR SEATBELT? Really??

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@textfiles this may be among your finest work

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@almostconverge oh no no I didn't mean you were butting in, at all, I meant in general. Like two women discussing something and a man jumps in with "well, actually.."

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@almostconverge there's a huge laundry list of problems, and having ten thousand "friends" is certainly one of them.. also a giant public commons where anyone can butt in at any time and offer their (unasked) opinion

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It is a shame that Imzy got shut down (per the founder, investors explicitly pulling the plug). A kinder, gentler reddit is sorely needed. https://t.co/Y1ETRqpIEZ

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@loadsterperf several hundred IPs, ideally thousands. Maybe 2-3 reqs/second nothing crazy

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just as a shout out I liked https://t.co/2uEyLA28nV a lot, a great deal for the price. But they only use ~20 different IPs

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@nzgb most botnets focus on lower level TCP/IP amplification attacks, very few do HTTP reqs

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@Pinboard Yeah Facebooks is the smarterest choice!

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@gknauss keep fighting the good fight Knauss

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@emarkp I suppose Blizzard may revisit that at some point if they ever tire of printing money ;)

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@kwiens turns out, being able to boot OSX on any x86 hardware is important ;)

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@emarkp makes tons of money though through cosmetics. I've spent hundreds myself.. so I believe the "business" word is, in fact, accurate

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@troldann @willie @siracusa If John doesn't like to fiddle, how is he ever gonna beat the devil at his own game? LEARN TO FIDDLE OR YOUR SOUL IS AT RISK https://t.co/Rke72bTsdJ

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@lauradobrzynski Yet another victory for procrastination!

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The PC cheating problem is also paramount here. Which project is responding better and faster to the (massive) proliferation of cheaters?

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@susanthesquark someone once called me "an interesting collection of hills to die on" and I think that's probably accurate

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@cube_drone I sometimes like to imagine the person who reads every page of a 3,000 "page" topic. This is not a sane person.

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@siracusa Just build a beastly x86 box and boot whatever. Sooo much easier. Even booting up as a hackintosh is easier!

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@bendhalpern some live topics date back to before 2010

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@kevdog It's called "configuring WordPress" and it already exists!

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@JonSchneider @burke4mayor I voted and added a comment; the highest voted answer is correct.

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@burke4mayor we have been working with the Bing team, but it's all standard robots.txt crawler throttling for now. Proper changes take many months if not years

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@deadprogrammer this was legitimately funny

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@wilshipley I do have two, the other one says PANIC as I recall

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it's from the indiegogo campaign, no idea where to get something like this today https://t.co/t5nW2weskD

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@scottmonaghan aaaaannnd also less pedants! Kind of the same thing, really!

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@Ralph42x yeah 10 years is about right, maybe more like 15?

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@david_maulat Possibly but all the keywords will be English regardless

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@val_to_string @AditDamodaran @argumatronic @alexelcu @shajra I legitimately don't think it's a good job, and I don't want my children to be programmers.

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@RogerFC you can google for "quantcast stackoverflow" and generate all the graphs you like

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@val_to_string @argumatronic @alexelcu @shajra I have zero interest in my children being programmers. I don't think it's a good job.

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@triketora perverse incentives -- insurance rates are lower with the car alarms installed, which is ambient and automatic; enforcement of fines / followup is manual

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@eviltrout seek thermal iOS version

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@loremgibson He wrote a book about this article subject?

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@Carnage4Life totally agree, just surprised how often this comes up. One that also shocked me to my core: https://t.co/qxYj68gUhX

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@Carnage4Life my *guess* is there was a customer who was "uncomfortable" and precipitated this?

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@berkan this one has a little led that lights up when connected so you know it's active

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@DocPop Henry and I will be there!

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@johnolilly @vvuk Oasis v2 is good oasis v1 with the detachable battery was super not good

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@textfiles I keep getting told this by @betsyphd so speaks so highly of it!

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@RonJeffries @damian0815 @cullanbonilla @lmcdo_ @alilynnet @DominicCronin @cristynhoward @Bob_at_BH @aprilwensel @spolsky @StackOverflow the long term goal of SO is to build a searchable archive of useful questions, not to answer the same questions repeatedly. Claims of duplicate should definitely link to the duplicate, though.

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@ajonit these hits incur load on our servers, so we count them for the purposes of hosting payments.

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@wimbokkers correction: I almost forgot, we removed the -1 rep on downvotes to questions. So it's -1 on answers exclusively. https://t.co/SxHnj32gPy

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The majority got this one right. The correct answer is ⚠ 6 million. Six million, or almost half of 12.5 million monthly pageviews.. were the Bing crawler hitting our enterprise customer site. Guess how much googlebot hit that same customer in the same month? 112k.

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@wimbokkers dowvoting costs 1 rep, remember? That isn't a whole lot of fun. You also can't downvote at all until you have 125 rep.

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@Carnage4Life it only works when your competitors do it to you

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@Oblongmana look up what happened in 2011 related to the investigations

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@chetfaliszek @DickDurbin most people would volunteer the hotel info in a social media post. "Check out this cool view at {hotel name here}!"

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@susanthesquark pace yourself; the path is long, and parts of it take decades to play out

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@brendcurran Can't you smell that smell?

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@HeavyStorm SO is far larger, and not a customer of anyone's https://t.co/dEI8Nf5FJ0

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@Pinboard anti-unrecommendated

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@TheRealSogomn @bendhalpern I don’t believe that one site for everyone, for example Facebook, is *ever* the correct design. There should be many different sites with many different communities and approaches.

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@bendhalpern then we disagree!

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@bendhalpern (or live chat)

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@bendhalpern If you are just starting out from first principles you need active real world mentorship, or at least live screenshare. Completely different design and environment.

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@dubya_brian @bendhalpern No vitriol in what Ben wrote!

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@bendhalpern you can also see evidence of this in the stack exchange site splits between mathoverflow and math, english and english learners, to some extent unix/linux and ubuntu

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@bendhalpern I think they require very different software designs; same reason we have colleges, high schools, elementary schools, etc.

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@oliyoung for the record it is possible to build a city out of toothpicks and matchsticks as well

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@brianwisti @Pinboard @TheRegister well yes, developers always do stuff wrong. but it's a question of doing stuff wrong with broken tools, which exacerbates the situation

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@Pinboard @TheRegister PHP did sooooo many things wrong. So many. Sooooo many.

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it also irrationally bugs me that the one shirt says "is" instead of "has". YOU HAVE MANGLED THE POETRY SIR

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also, there are t-shirts, and even a tattoo! https://t.co/DuZJRCetuX

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@ZachWeiner hardware sucks (takes forever to create via other giant machines, atoms are expensive to ship, difficult to iterate without a timeline of "years"), software is still effectively printing money

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@ZachWeiner children: they will make you question everything

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@sarahjeong he didn't even dig up the corpse of Google Plus to answer with??

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@RonJeffries @cullanbonilla @lmcdo_ @alilynnet @DominicCronin @cristynhoward @Bob_at_BH @aprilwensel @spolsky @StackOverflow I have, repeatedly -- participate on https://t.co/MVKbgsCznt and discuss issues with concrete examples, run for moderator election, flag incivility. https://t.co/p26Dm7BwWV

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@AlexandraABowen sadly never heard back after entering my email on the target website.. the url is in some of the replies

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@Skilenstein not sure, you can email me details if you like

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@JeremyIClarke @Xirsoi results were posted in reply to original tweet

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@janeylicious @aprilwensel @PolloBrav0 @cullanbonilla @lmcdo_ @alilynnet @DominicCronin @cristynhoward @Bob_at_BH @spolsky @StackOverflow bigger version of screenshot in case we Observer Effect this one https://t.co/zjlV4Wncv5

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@janeylicious @aprilwensel @PolloBrav0 @cullanbonilla @lmcdo_ @alilynnet @DominicCronin @cristynhoward @Bob_at_BH @spolsky @StackOverflow It's been ~24 hours, so here are the results. Brand new user, clearly feminine name, random programming question. Not seeing any toxicity? https://t.co/VadSVU3yNC https://t.co/oCPiHHSBTr

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@tobermatt @chowspecial I would say 99% of it is project velocity. This is true of many things, and life in general. Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'

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@tobermatt @chowspecial not really, not as long as you are iterating rapidly such that their changes break when they update to latest ;)

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@jeremyckahn @fgagnongrenier @aprilwensel @spolsky @StackOverflow that said, the idea of making the terms "code of conduct" hit on the relevant policies might be a good idea cc @JayHanlon

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@jeremyckahn @fgagnongrenier @aprilwensel @spolsky @StackOverflow so if your observation is "people don't read anything" then.. welcome the desert of the real, my friend

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@mattschaar @AeTonyR I am not referring to any particular person. Mostly I'm referring to dudes, to be honest.

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@KrisSiegel right, but i'm talking about a kid with zero algebra experience walking into a community college calculus class. That isn't "toxic", that's "hey, you might be in the wrong place"

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@KrisSiegel there is never derision, however, a middle school student who shows up for community college will end up very unhappy with the way their work is evaluated. Is that the fault of the community college?

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@KrisSiegel @lmcdo_ @alilynnet @DominicCronin @cristynhoward @Bob_at_BH @aprilwensel @spolsky @StackOverflow The original tagline and design goal was "professional and enthusiast programmers", as seen at https://t.co/H9PnjfK7pv

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@lmcdo_ @RichSeviora sadly, the norm on the internet is "type anything in box, it will be accepted." (including racism, sexism, etc.) Stack Overflow is the exception to that rule; having high standards for quality, not duplicating work, practical/useful to others is why people want to go to SO



