@deadprogrammer https://t.co/i5pIHVAmh9

@MikeMonteithDev If you'd like "Versioned Answers" then reply with "this API has changed as of 2017, it is now X" -- you'll get rep for upvotes on answers, but not for comments.

@MikeMonteithDev why not press the edit button? Any user can edit any post, without even logging in. If you don't believe me, try it yourself in a browser incognito window ;)

@kensykora @ayende @tobermatt @JohnONolan that would be covered in the bug bounty program

@ayende @tobermatt @JohnONolan irrelevant. any meaningful bug gets reported multiple times. And if it doesn't, then not enough people are hitting that bug for it to matter anyway.

@Carnage4Life well, *sort of*, if you do what Bezos did and say "you will sell your product to us internally, as well as external customers" .. that can work. But it has to be real sales, e.g. amazon AWS

@seesharp Sorry I shot the food

@williamslauram @PierB @pameladruck there's a lot of data showing unhappiness peaks in life at ~45-47, across many cultures and economic strata https://t.co/J4KAa4dLVu

@vwdewaal see https://t.co/lHKvIkjRrA or https://t.co/TVEj6SvejA

@whoaa512 keeps losing my "pro" payment info and reverting to ad-version.. multiple times

@darrenkopp this is reprehensible trolling, sir

Or.. electromechanically https://t.co/riIUreMVte

@textfiles @nicksahler @Firehawke And believe me, I can’t wait

@textfiles @nicksahler @Firehawke As do you! Fortunately, we’ll all be dead soon.

@kissu_io https://t.co/mvs9byxdup

@textfiles Give me some bitterness Links as examples, interviews?

I feel sad for people who use computers without skulls on them

@RageousX This is so true

@bryanww (Scrapes eyeballs out)

@radford_andrew Which is fine, because the lack of a positive is not a negative

@DocPop I got tired of being dragged for having opinions.

@DanielMiessler @tqbf THANK YOU

@lauradobrzynski mutually assured construction

@pyrolistical @jonstodle Sometimes I downvote answers when I want other answers to appear above those answers, though (usually coincides with upvoting 1 or more competing answers, too). Remember downvotes cost -1 rep, at least downvotes on answers do.

@flobeauchamp @jonstodle I agree, it depends on the subreddit

@jonstodle That may be so, but opinion questions are explicitly disallowed on Stack Overflow. If it can have a hundred “answers” it does not fit.

@jonstodle Opinions and downvoting are a bad idea. Sticking to facts, data, and science is the only way they work.

@tombielecki @DrNemski when they tried hiding downvotes with CSS, everyone on the reddit app said downvotes still showed up there. Plus users can turn off theming as well.

@tombielecki @DrNemski that doesn't look like the app to me though

@angeldominguez @spolsky we didn't have any funding at that time, so I was living on savings

@tombielecki @DrNemski native Reddit app does not respect CSS at all, and I wouldn't expect it to

@tombielecki @DrNemski How do you enable it on a subreddit? We could only locate the CSS hack. Screenshot / details / specifics?

@DrNemski that can't be enforced though, can it? You can hide it in CSS but that does nothing for mobile, and mobile is huge and growing.

@waxpancake @textfiles "And the motto of Harvard is 'Veritas,' which means 'truth.' We took to saying 'very tass' to mean, 'very true,' or 'too true.' Our students picked it up and started applying it to something that was cool. " This, I did not know

@waxpancake tsk. https://t.co/3zCnlb3VvT

@waxpancake what is the source of this poll? I keep getting second hand jokes about it, e.g. https://t.co/magPerqjUT

@scottwasson to the bunker!

we ended up using an internal tool @oblakeerickson built, spinning up 100+ cloud instances for just a little while, to get the necessary IP addresses. And now @discourse has much better 100% logged-in user load protection as a result!

@ftrain amiga 500

@wilshipley I did all of S1 and part of S2.. it's solid but it isn't *that* good, is it?

@susanthesquark There will be so many of these moments. Soooo many.

@wilshipley Honestly I think rental is the only viable long term strategy here. All the data I know of supports this outcome.

@SwiftOnSecurity the post says the hostname is leaked

@anildash https://t.co/1FeLETGao5

@glenatron I think that's a remarkably negative characterization that I don't agree with. There may be outliers on both ends, statistically.

@glenatron I actually feel there are some great suggestions in there, which is kinda the point of meta

@glenatron the engine is really really *really* unsuitable for opinion / discussion but people LOVE that stuff

@akaFlanners how does wikipedia decide what is "notable"?

@voretaq7 @zippy1981 If the existing "be civil" 2008 and "be nice" 2012 are not being enforced, that's a huge problem. Those should be enforced with an iron fist, and they were when I was there, at least.

@secoif @ejstembler essentially, every downvote and close vote is viewed as disrespect. Any comment questioning the question, however civil, is viewed as disrespect.

@gilescope Good! I do not believe in a world where every human must have a Facebook account. There should be many places to go, with different experiences.

@ejstembler try opening any SO question in anonymous / incognito mode in your browser, then click the "improve this {q/a}" link under each post ;)

@secoif @ejstembler "Be civil" has been a documented, enforced policy since 2008, which you can confirm via wayback machine if needed. "Be nice" has been an documented, enforced policy since 2012.

@Azumanga In this case, it's working as designed; irate stuff gets shut down, and the remaining open topics are proposing solutions of various kinds

@kayaelle @almostconverge @samsaffron I _think_ votes from users who don't have rep to vote might be included in the anon vote tallies, but I am not sure.

@kayaelle @almostconverge @samsaffron vote up requires 15 rep, vote down requires 125 rep (and costs you 1 rep, except on questions) https://t.co/QLCkJQlOgh

@kayaelle @almostconverge as I recall this was one of @samsaffron's excellent ideas?

@kayaelle @almostconverge anonymous Stack Overflow votes are actually tallied, though not displayed; we did an interesting thing where we looked for big divergences between anon votes and public votes, because that was always indicative of something going wrong

(to be fair, there are several really good suggestion / ideas topics in there, too)

@rolandixor @donal_tweets @JeyDaan asking a great and clear question, that can be answered well, should be though

@shog9 Also that email usually comes a bit late (and out of band!), which violates the just-in-time rule for maximum efficacy

@jarrod_dixon my mouth started to water a little bit looking at this, not even joking

@donal_tweets @JeyDaan I think the way we attempted wall of text asking EULAs in 2010-2011 .. still that way.. has clearly not worked. Seriously, try signing up as a new user and asking a question. You get TONS of advice, even a live search prompt. Nobody reads a damn bit of it.

@joranelias @StackOverflow not that I'm bitter about it or anything.

<voiceover>He was very bitter about it.</voiceover>

@joranelias @StackOverflow not that we dodn't do amazing work in 2010-2011, we did the best we could, but it's been virtually untouched since then. That's 7 years. SEVEN. YEARS.

@shog9 at some point it got buried, which is also sad. I guess the thinking was "we don't have to teach anyone about stack, everyone already knows how this works?" anyway, /ask page wizard and interactive tutorials can't come soon enough

@JeyDaan agreed, and I think the communication has failed particularly on the /ask page -- asking should be a method of last resort, and it also presents the greatest opportunity for things going wrong, because questions get top billing (and there's always multiple possible answers)

@casperOne https://t.co/v4Yj0rI2h7 the word "wiki" was there from day one, in fact, it gets top billing in the venn diagram https://t.co/nX8u4aLwmK

@zippy1981 I asked a question as a brand new user with a female name, and no toxicity was observed. https://t.co/kVUrxFHyua

@shog9 Did you notice the tour is basically gone from the home page? View it in anon / incognito. It is buried in footer linkdump now

@ihaveajob @emalamisura I don’t know that Stack Overflow should be the final and definitive source for every possible programming question. But that is definitely the case for Wikipedia, which is *also* a non-profit org..

@brassmonkeysoft I strongly recommend opening a meta.stackoverflow topic on this

@migueldeicaza @A_Aspuru_Guzik well, actually, you are wearing your glasses wrong

@JeyDaan I think there should be many places to go on the internet, offering materially different learning experiences. For example, I find a facebook-required world morally abhorrent.

@JeyDaan heuristics already reject about 47% of incoming questions (generally of as you can imagine, quite poor quality), so I doubt it

@almostconverge yep, this tension has always been there, for sure

@SleeplessByte @jorge_chaos people don't look to see what's already there: the mandatory interstitial page for first askers has a search box on it, and entering a question title kicks off a search for match by title. But this is all old existing code from 2011 or earlier.

@JeyDaan I've been begging the Stack team to update the /ask page since 2011-2012, as it has not meaningfully changed since then. Hopefully they finally will?

@mortenmertner @bendhalpern not if you edit them, right? Which anyone can do, as an anonymous user..

@emalamisura I'd love alternatives! I find a Facebook-required world deeply disturbing, and I want absolutely no part of a world like that.

@feartomorrow yes, that's always been true, and hopefully 99.9% of the time people get what they need by searching and reading.

@jorge_chaos it gets much harder as the corpus grows, because there are far more chances for duplicates.

@almostconverge 99.9% of the time, they can probably get their answer by searching. Ask should be a method of last resort.

@mortenmertner @bendhalpern You can edit / update any question or answer in stack overflow as an anonymous user. Don't believe me? Try it ;) Been a feature since ~2010 or so.

@bendhalpern Necessary when "anything goes" is the baseline, for sure. That's a morally bankrupt starting point.

@bendhalpern the goal is not "answer my question", but "build an artifact that will help future coders". Same tension in wikipedia. And as the # of questions goes up over time, that tension ratchets up due to duplicate landmines.

@bendhalpern which is why the "be civil" (2008) and "be nice" (2012) rules on Stack Overflow should matter. They've *always* been there from inception. That said, it is a system of strictness in what it will accept, with downvoting and close votes.

@jxyzn @Beschizza this is sadly and deeply true

@Beschizza What cpu? Surprised a 2015 cpu would be that bad!

3 eliminations? ha ha who cares now it's 30 v 8 enjoy

@wilshipley oh just wait, the wolf insanity becomes utterly sublime later.

@wilshipley future man is frickin amazing

@MotleyGrue @Hanzo55 Is this in Canada because that would explain some things

@dhh @NathanBowers David I never want to wake up again

@gpakosz @tdierks @paniq https://t.co/4bDYEWcQOI

@NAlexWhite see https://t.co/Q9uNFhzWmo and https://t.co/jpJsEZTvDK

@pmflanner Just in case you missed it: https://t.co/jpJsEZTvDK and https://t.co/Q9uNFhzWmo .. any other questions, feel free to email me directly for more data. Bing is EXTREMELY BAD.

@tobermatt forums!

@mathowie I actually listen to this album at least once a year

@susanthesquark The older I get, the more of an optimistic nihilist I become https://t.co/YgyS8d20DM