@lmisitzis @mathowie This was a fantastic episode, thank you for making it happen. Listening to it I expected to hear more damning stuff about Jack, but I am even more conflicted now. I agree 100% with Matt's take that the actual data suffers in the rush to make "a proper story", however..

@erraggy that's the goal, for sure... I'm not really defending pedantry, just acknowleding that it is in fact a very real occupational hazard for programmers based on who our daily coworker is.. the computer.

@stevesi everything you would ever want to know about super soakers and water guns https://t.co/j8oOqlQEYN including individual ratings at https://t.co/JA5URPYmtx

@stevesi @discourse right but that's a knob you turn. Stack Overflow is *heavily* curated discussion, technically. Which still pisses a loooot of people off, but it's necessary to get the signal-to-noise ratio that makes it worth visiting in the first place.

@amyhoy @mathowie lie, or leave out critical parts of the story, which technically isn't lying per se.. but definitely NOT the full story, is it?

@stevesi that's what @discourse is meant to be, except 'groups of fans'

@jsswensen Bobody wants to hear about all the insane, minute details it actually takes to make a program, except other programmers. And often not even then..

@wattsamata being a pedant isn't being an a-hole, because programmers know that technically correct is the best kind of correct!

I'm not saying it is *good* to be a pedant. But it's kind of necessary for the job, at least when dealing with your primary co-worker -- the computer.

this is why I don't understand people who get all pissed off that programmers tend to be pedants. It's an occupational hazard.

@nivenhuh this is really great advice, I liked it, but I wanted to formally second it as something people should do

@vyedin @migueldeicaza @kumpera I need this but for leaf blower man.. camera pans over Miguel's shoulder to a shadowy, lurking figure who slowly outstretches a leaf blower, menacingly..

@cpaik l-dodging-as-a-service .. LDAAS?

@Carnage4Life welllll sorta. Inclusive does not equal being complete a-holes

@seannalexander @SwiftOnSecurity it's a clbuttic!

@shandrew I'm still pissed about this

@Frang @discourse well, totally unformatted as plain text versus marked as a code block. That's quite clear.

@a7an yayy! it can live on 🤗

@Carnage4Life Patreon and GoFundMe are vulnerable as well

@natfriedman @mtdowling Can you make the face bigger? Asking for a friend

@romabysen https://t.co/ad2yyRgop4

oh god it's just so damn good

@clairehagin @joshaledgard @patio11 if you select users randomly it shouldn't be an issue. If you let users self-select, you tend to get the most aggressive, talkative, opinionated users. These users may or may not have the right kind of feedback you need..

@KristyT “As a rule, strong feelings about issues do not emerge from deep understanding” 🤣

@tombyrer yeah that's why science doesn't exist, because everything is subjective

@tombyrer you shouldn't be asking subjective questions there, is the point ;)

@jrssnet ouch, dollar store chocolate bunnies wow

@migueldeicaza yeah unless you are like cryptocoin mining 24/7 there is no way

@migueldeicaza do not install that fan, if you do you will be very sorry trust me on this

@kerobinso @paulg I googled and found another very similar story on the same person and read that instead

@TheEricAnderson @patio11 another example of this is the daily reputation cap we (well, I) introduced at Stack Overflow. This is telling you "yep, you've used SO enough today, time to work on other stuff as good programmers do." SO is not THE GOAL. Getting shit done IS.

@patio11 "users" who talk the loudest and longest should never set your product direction

@omojumiller LOL

@tobermatt I would swear this was an imaginary creature if you had not cited wikipedia

@tobermatt is it human?

@xor super interesting stuff https://t.co/bFcAQuMUyK

@Frauenfelder 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

excellent questions everyone, thanks for participating! 🙇‍♂️

@KristyT this is a truly deep cut

"With 10 billion transistors (A12 6.9 billion), the A12X Bionic is a big chip especially compared to the Snapdragon 835 (3 Billion) or a Skylake desktop quad-core Soc (1.75 Billion)."

@fashy "Within the U.S., Hershey's 32.2 percent market share makes it the largest chocolate company followed by Mars (26.4)"

@jongalloway they sent so much traffic over there, so .. Mission Accomplished™

https://t.co/FYjHUJ7ogm and the cheese ain't too hot either

@isaacgarcia It was, but without the rivalry it would have happened far more slowly.

in the US we had the space shuttle missions after Apollo, “taken from a 1969 plan for a system of reusable spacecraft of which it was the only item funded for development” https://t.co/UhR0KcV6so

If you want to read something profoundly sad, check out what happened to the USSR space program after Apollo 8, when the rivalry was effectively over. https://t.co/TXYRcMWzMM

@tobermatt I only accept science from a human.

@tylerlanecodes this is the future you have always deserved

@mathowie I'm a little nervous about the systemic problems you can have with this setup. Let me know in 2 months if it's safe!

@seaninsound yep they are

@jwz I just feel like some of these takes are SO DUMB that replying actually legitimizes them somewhat.

@onalark these are the questions that need answering

@mikezilla_ IDK, feel free to pile on if you feel that is necessary 🤷‍♂️

@ASpittel but I hear you on having "enough" responses, but.. is the internet *really* ever gonna be short on controversial-dumb-take responses? I mean, is that a thing that can even happen these days?

@ASpittel Some of these takes are just so profoundly dumb they're not worth spending any time on refuting. "Don't hire anyone who doesn't write a thank you email?" Refuting over and over has a side effect.. it repeats the original idiocy which leads to .. https://t.co/SL57yFP76i

@ASpittel to a point, but does it help to have 1000+ people just pile on endlessly? Also, the energy required to refute BS is an order of magnitude greater than the energy required to create it..

there's now a literal infinity of obviously dumb takes to look at, and piling on doesn't make sense to me. "Obviously dumb thing is dumb!" Why dignify idiocy with a response? 🤔 Is it for the clicks? Because I don't get it.

@cwodtke depends how the opinion is shared. If it's "fuck you, your work is shit", that's something else. My feeling is that 90% of feedback is worthless for a variety of reasons. But there's 10% of truth in there somewhere, if you are willing to mine through garbage to get to it

@cwodtke that doesn't mean nothing was wrong with it, it just means all the users are now dead ;)

@grthink @EzeeT see also https://t.co/LHQcYkV3HR

@mpaluchowski @Carnage4Life this is a very amusing reply in the context of the old SO documentation effort cc @kevinmontrose -- I always felt bundling (hand curating?) a bunch of related Q&A was the way to go

@kemitchell Why not try this https://t.co/CCFsItb39f

@Carnage4Life hardware startups are sooo risky though

@textfiles Glorious

@ping0x89 @donttrythis That one “only” shoots at 4 rounds per second. This one shoots EIGHT per second

@joshu @Pinboard @deadprogrammer I can’t trust this insecure http site, it is dead to me. Probably malware.

@deadprogrammer Unicode

@ID_AA_Carmack Similar argument for removing side passenger windows on airplanes

@qmriis Well yeah but at the cost of abysmal performance, can’t do 60fps in fortnite, less than half the cpu perf.

@0xDynamite @timoreilly @pomeranian99 No software survives contact with users. If you think it does, you are part of the problem.

@timoreilly @pomeranian99 Define “works”

What is especially annoying is that with MFi game controllers you end up with a generic looking Bluetooth gamepad that somehow inexplicably *only* works with iOS devices 🤥

iPhone A12 specific commentary from Epic https://t.co/LQFn7ZsjsA

@kitatchung @markdalgleish This is better, I should have gone with this

@balpha @stalkjimmy Not even an opinion? You were not consulted? The Michael Jordan of April fools????

@JohnONolan @SimonDingle I don’t recall any of our dependencies requiring sms though.

@JohnONolan @SimonDingle “Every single” is not remotely true though. Sucky ones, yes, but all the majors get this right.

@markdalgleish I am never not in Hot Dog Stand. You are tourists. I live in Hot Dog Stand; it is who I am.

@stalkjimmy It was likely all @balpha in his swan song as he has since departed for greener pastures!

@lizardbill https://t.co/52dawjwk8q

@lizardbill graph that looks like Ms. Pac Man

@lucasarruda @dhh Mac addressable market is just a rounding error relative to iOS biz though

@mpjme @dhh It is a mystery to me why the monstrous performance of the A12X has not already been moved to a laptop form factor.. maybe for A13?

@sarahjeong @sdpowell1 it's quite good! Woke, even.

@dhh Apple doesn't really care about anything but iOS any more. Can't say I blame them.

@deadprogrammer so jealous right now

@Beschizza @_bittercandy not at all, it took way too long for proper 4k support, sadly you have to wait until mainstream MSFT devs have the monitors so they live the pain. Takes forever.

@Beschizza @_bittercandy Ah so that dialogue is the Win 7 interface for launching the setup then? I usually boot from the win10 DVD image to upgrade, which would probably do better in this scenario.

@dsteele713 @pauldotknopf What we have had since November 2016 is very much America at its worst. A real nadir. Rock bottom.

@Beschizza That does not look like a Windows 10 install dialogue though

@ericlaw @stevesi Standard A12, the iPad Pro is even faster. Still not clear why they aren’t shipping laptops on this. My Surface Pro 6 is noticeably slower than my iPad Pro

@DynamicWebPaige I’m reading the book “Rocket Men” now. Loved First Man as well. Inspiring.

@wilshipley well you deleted those tweets so you get this weird reply — I am with you, answering in comments is super annoying. To me you are allowed to steal those and edit them into your answer, or post a new answer with that text

@patrickcentral Using ours today on the airplane right now in fact!!

@type__error Well *I* think your IDE and matching style is AWESOME

@wilshipley love is overrated

@shog9 If you can't take the pedantry, get out of the .. uh .. er.. IDE?

It's NOT AWESOME!

@type__error this is the best followup tweet

@GeekCyclist yeah but this is a gmail account