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@Pinboard if only these concerned young people would FUCKING VOTE

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@rossrubin that could be built in asymmetry in upload vs download though versus raw speeds. Super common even on "cable modems"

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Billions is definitely nudging ahead in this poll, cheers 🍻

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even on metacritic it's a close call (season 1 of both series chosen for comparison) https://t.co/DSIyoF79G4

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@MikeAlbanese the voting does not agree!

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@waxpancake I am so motivated rn

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@kevinmontrose and at night, the dickwolves come.

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@danudey also the problem with cheap usb keys. 32GB or 64GB+ sounds good, but at 10 megabytes per second to copy stuff on to it.. not so hot

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@Carnage4Life what's a good example of this?

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@Carnage4Life wework is up there with theranos in the crazyometer

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@Michael_MXP yes I used 1x single speed CD-ROM as a benchmark for a long time.

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@sh4na I never really understood how people could think that making this kind of stuff up is even possible, not like it benefits the person who "made it up", saying anything at all carries a huge risk.

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@Beschizza @mattcutts mentioned he uses this technique and it works, particulary if you ask them for examples to "prove" they're legit

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@Beschizza It looks like wearing a robot diaper

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@wrmultitudes of course it is, @migueldeicaza is an international treasure

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he has a bernie 2016 sticker on his laptop 🤣

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all right this is kind of amazing https://t.co/hmlUDS7Eoy

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@Pinboard @stegersaurus @nytdavidbrooks @karaswisher when did they stop having a public editor? Did they provide a rationale for this?

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@saraschaefer1 @anildash OMG this is brilliant 🤣

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@drewtetz WELL ACTUALLY https://t.co/W9CX6zwAbC

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@lizardbill you want your mind seriously expanded and your conceptions challenged, watch Rectify, watch The Leftovers. Heck watch The Patriot on Amazon Prime.

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@lizardbill I watched that whole damn series and I'm still a little bitter about it. Was it good? Sure, it was good. Solid. But not a particularly earth shatteringly brilliant experience relative to other shows.

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@bdurrett there is a slider here https://t.co/sS40Vafc6O

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@Pinboard yes this one is very odd

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@SmallBatchAgile for a long time on HN you *could not* collapse threads and it sucked so much. I find about 50% of the replies lead to irrelevant tangents, prior to collapse being implemented you had to suck it up and scroll through them all.

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@BobKitten @Nash @cooperq @____Soliloquy @fsf @sarahjeong is always worth listening to, she is a national treasure

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@antimule I was kinda referring to the plot of both

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@saleemrash1d @mikeydoubled @tqbf I'm 99% sure this is a subreddit level setting. I absolutely verified the behavior in the (very low volume) yo-yo subreddit multiple times.

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@saleemrash1d @mikeydoubled @tqbf I tested in the yo-yo subreddit and I had no issues with a brand new account, I could even cast votes (that were visible to my primary account) *without verifying my email*. I guess this varies strongly by subreddit settings

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@mikeydoubled @tqbf yeah this is where "highlight new accounts in a visible way" becomes critical

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@Nash @cooperq @____Soliloquy @fsf RMS was *widely* known as freaky and weird https://t.co/VqNhl0oReH

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@howtotalker Loving it, keep up the great work 👏

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there's a new book from the authors focusing on younger kids. If you're about to be a parent, trust me, you *need* this book. https://t.co/BQC2sRQBpD

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@eviltrout oh so we're wearing clothes in Montreal then (scribbles a note)

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@eviltrout you have to burn that t-shirt

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@IDisposable @kevindente I looked at the state of consumer eye tracking recently and it was .. weird. Take a peek.

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@kevindente you see right through me Dente!! But seriously, I think it's an interesting design decision, because both forms have tradeoffs. Noise for one, discovery for the other. Both take some effort as well.

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as an example of A vs B, imagine Reddit (a sane subreddit, please) where discussions are either expanded by default or *not* expanded by default.

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@gortok so like.. uh.. good luck with that? I'd go with the simpler everyone all the time rule

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@gortok I mean you can't even explain it to people in the US most of the time.. https://t.co/mvUTNKKl4f

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@Grady_Booch @FunnelFiasco I *personally* think it's much more interesting in other fields which have far lower wages, far worse working conditions, and therefore more at stake. That said, to get a foothold I agree it's best to concentrate on the niches where it is the best fit (e.g. gamedevs, hollywood)

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@FunnelFiasco @Grady_Booch that is not to say there are no benefits! Lots of good examples, I particularly like the "no forced arbitration" and "contract worker benefits / protection" ones.

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@FunnelFiasco @Grady_Booch as I said, I get that part, but I think the benefits are less clear when the field is one of (and arguably the highest, relative to required education) paid in the US.

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@FunnelFiasco @Grady_Booch I definitely get that part. But literally *no other field* (in the US at least) pays this much relative to the required education to get into it.. see for yourself via the links I provided.

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@gortok I'd like to hear your answer to this, because I'm stumped. It's even weirder when the service is ostensibly "free", so defining who the customers are and who the service owners are.. and the nature of that participatory relationship.. is even more nebulous

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@tgx_world @tobermatt @ZogStriP @discourse it's a trivial change, really. Sort of like looking and reddit and saying "should I be forced to click to collapse discussions I don't want to see, or should I be forced to click to expand discussions I *do* want to see?"

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@tgx_world @tobermatt @ZogStriP @discourse or, they could all be default muted and they unmute the ones they like (starting with their "home team category") .. same thing in reverse, really.

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@Grady_Booch and technically it pays less at $132,280 median vs $139,220 -- not to mention 5.1k projected jobs versus 44.2k. No masters or doctorate needed either (and I'd argue even the bachelor's degree isn't necessary in software)

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@Grady_Booch If you scroll down here you'll see the *only* other field paying as much for so little education (and IMO you don't even need a bachelor's degree to do software).. is the oil and gas industry 🤔 https://t.co/wDmwMPgWgt

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@ThomasBurkhartB @Grady_Booch Perhaps, but most fields aren't as lucrative, and require 4-8 years of specialized (and *very* expensive) education to get there. Scroll down here while looking at "projected jobs" and "education needed" -- https://t.co/wDmwMPgWgt

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@Grady_Booch I think the more compelling argument is that 4-8 tech cos are so big now they are like nation-states and have to be governed democratically from the inside.. somehow. Not much precedent in the US for this though.

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@Grady_Booch I agree it makes more sense in that particular niche

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@tobermatt @tgx_world @ZogStriP @discourse yeah you would start to say "I only look at categories {a} and {b} daily"

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This show doesn't reaaaaallly know where it is going -- but it is a truly *insane* journey 🤯

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@jcrichman @can @UltimaOnlineEA I signed up for the beta of that, and got in, but I super disliked that kind of 2D RPG gameplay

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@can @jcrichman thanks to the smartphone/facebooks hyperconnected era (which only started in *maybe* 2012? 2014?) human beings have never interacted with this many other human beings every day; it is uncharted territory in terms of human experience

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@can @jcrichman Ironically twitter has been doing sentiment analysis on tweets and auto suppressing the “worst” ones which works ok, certainly better than the absolutely nothing they were doing previously

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@Danbo I said tech specifically, not “people”

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@cm_stead At a certain audience size on Twitter you don’t get a choice though, probably much lower for women and minorities as well

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@Carnage4Life And if you want relentless tiny daily negative interactions with randos, Twitter and Facebook are your respective huckleberries

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@fredwilson regardless, you'd expect some significant percentage of the Android population to have this small device preference, if it really existed.. and that would be manifested in popular small Android smartphones

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never in the history of the service has a Twitter thread on a complex and controversial topic ever "made an argument clearer"

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@fredwilson these kinds of people aren't really voting with their pocketbooks, or we'd see this trend in the Android space which has no such limitations. Android had phablets before Apple for the same reasons.

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@carrickdb @mikerugnetta huh. The National Average Wage Index. https://t.co/LW8OlwiWrt https://t.co/eHVood7O0H

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@carrickdb @mikerugnetta "At the time, the national average wage index was $13,773, yet salary offers for graduating MBAs were reaching $40,000 to $50,000, with bonuses as high as an additional $20,000." https://t.co/6ZsoaSTEJ3

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@carrickdb @mikerugnetta and wow, a $50k/year salary in 1990, based on inflation, is also "equivalent" to that $100k/year salary today

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@carrickdb @mikerugnetta also inflation is rarely considered by average people either, but in 2000 $69k/year and in 2010 $85k/year are "equivalent" to a $100k/year salary today

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@Carnage4Life (not in the sense that this a rational human behavior, it isn't, but if you're looking for "alpha" animal role models, they haven't gone away)

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@Carnage4Life wikipedia seems to be saying it's true in primates, so it doesn't really matter if it's true in wolves, does it?

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@Carnage4Life wait don't primates have this too? was it debunked there? https://t.co/9PPB53SMUY

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@Frauenfelder err... zero?

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@shog9 where is my downvote button

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@shog9 you can start the apology by adding a z in there bucko

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@modernserf I read it, and mostly it seemed to be "management randomly & arbitrarily spiked an internal department finding" .. and I also agreed that was a terrible and tone deaf decision from management. Why have Trust & Safety if you're gonna spike them on the regular?

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@antimule @matt_townsend that depends how bad for business you / we can make it. A single blog post made it very, very bad for business at Uber.

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@antimule @matt_townsend the only answer is systemic deplatforming. It works. Whatever justified outrage there is, the resulting effort needs to be formed into a shaped charge that drives toward precisely that goal.

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@antimule @matt_townsend @KristyT yeah, I see, the nihilism of anything goes because nothing matters but view counts / clicks?

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@matt_townsend @antimule if it bleeds/clicks, it leads. And outrage does that. More clicks, more ad revenue, more subscriptions? The whole model of optimizing for controversy and clicks has to somehow change.

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@matt_townsend @KristyT I think the problem today is people are emboldened to say outlandish things they *do* believe. Zero consequences for Trump, so why not them?

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@danekhollas @technologypoet The TL;DR is that they *are* regulated, but regulations haven't kept up with the smartphone-in-yer-pocket everyone connected to everyone 24/7 facebook world we currently live in.

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@codehitchhiker (honestly I don't even think you need a college diploma to do *very* well in IT. One of my current co-founders has no college degree.)

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@herrenbok believe me, that's said about a thousand times a day on Stack Overflow, where expectations are far higher and the goal of the site is radically more focused

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@danekhollas @technologypoet you know I would love to answer that but it'd be a nightmare on Twitter to do so

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@mkawia See https://t.co/shauDkchIs & upstream. But you see how hard Twitter makes (waves hands around) ALL OF THIS

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@cshirky @robinhanson "depraved indifference" is a really interesting concept in law https://t.co/DCJKwsc7zk





