@ericohlsen we don't know, unfortunately -- sign up at http://t.co/T8eBLeFi1V with your email to be notified when we find out!

@DaveJustDave probably less than 300w. Get a kill-a-watt

@NicheDiver @WhiteRoses4444 oooh I did not understand this interaction. Can I retract that? Still, history teacher is kind of a .. jerk.

@RuurdKeizer slimline blu-ray drive is no big deal. The blu-ray *software* playback situation was really really crappy last time I checked.

@DaveJustDave also no way in hell to stay inside the 60w envelope.

@DaveJustDave If it could do a "hybrid" thing where the external PCIex video sleeps until needed, would not be bad. Complex though.

@svanlooy Intel isn't far from PS3 level GPUs. Maybe 2 more gens? Remember the PS3 has all of 256mb as well.

@kikin81 can it hold 4.5 TB internally like mine does? No Haswell either.

@svanlooy flexibility is the point of the box! That's the whole reason.

@svanlooy wake me up when it can also play Arkham Asylum at playable frame rates :)

@ftrain was juggling involved? We just did the same thing, notary and all

@Capncavedan I can neither confirm nor deny the receipt of this tweet because it is not verified

@carlmanaster @betsyphd yeah, the more high end and expensive, the less common sense in action. Sad but true.

@rbarraud yeahhhh... no.

@rbarraud that's peak. look at idle and intermediate states. Is your PC running at 100% CPU all the time? Hmm?

@siracusa psaw, it's retro hipster cool.

@siracusa only old people use OS X.

@Cyanbane if you are logged in, yes. This is broken on WP8 but works fine on IE10/11.

@rbarraud 4x faster GPU. Probably about 20% faster on the CPU side. Lower power consumption.

@siracusa looking forward to the death of OS X. iOS FOREVER BITCHES

@Cyanbane hmm. on http://t.co/iezygCFH9c and http://t.co/xtRYvz7geU the browser in WP8 does not take me to the last read post. Confirm?

@Cyanbane @discourse thanks -- getting the latest WP8 updates over wifi now

@seriouspony perhaps I should have said "obsessed", that's a better word

@cwodtke @IAisUX ah, the delectable scent of wolf urine

@ironicsans @waxpancake on the upside: HELLO VECTREX!

@jzy @rob_rusk do you really want to scream "I have a cheap phone?" I mean the 5s looks god damn Gucci and Vuitton

@jzy @rob_rusk don't forget chipped anodized aluminum on the newer ones either. Cases are so common in the iPhone ecosystem, jewelry protect

@jzy @rob_rusk yeah but cases are such a strong part of the iPhone vibe. glass backs.. antenna probs.. style.. colored cases easy n' common

@ratkins @gruber I dunno, I don't see 5c doing well. Could be wrong. Initial indications are negative (no online sell-out, no numbers shown)

@rob_rusk @jzy also the 5s looks a LOT more premium than the cheap looking 5c. And colors are easy to achieve with cases anyway.

@evil_trout @dorianmuthig I dunno, @samsaffron advocates loading JS at the top for a 100% JS app like us.

@dontcallmedarth @tinybop you nailed it! I just loved that version update note. :)

@gruber I don't see a meaningful difference between default colors and cases, though. Colored cases plentiful. iPhone very case-centric.

@mrbusche @jzy not cheap enough. No announcement of first day preorders, nothing is out of stock online. Bad strategy.

@jzy I need a larger screen. Thinking about Nexus 5.

@escoz yes, they did. Read the article.

@escoz that's the same thing that was always announced since 2009. 5s cannot be preordered at all, physical wait in line only. No supply.

@escoz but we're talking about Apple. They have announced first day sales every time since 2009, but not this time.

@jzy which is heavily supply constrained, and cannot even be preordered. Physical wait in line only. This is bad.

@fmanjoo the re-packaging of the 5 as the 5c for tiny incremental lower price seems doomed to failure to me. Limited supply of 5s dangerous.

@ID_AA_Carmack does it make up for the Billions that Doom, Quake and its children subtracted from programmer productivity? :)

@lizardbill isn't that what F12 is for? Make it so

@NathanBowers ie10 works better than Firefox in Discourse, and we are about as intense of a JS app there is short of games.

@nz_cub3y has been available since launch.. all out of stock at the moment

@kevindente @jzy look at the http://t.co/BBOONXB1pI guy

@Beschizza buzzfeed man, buzzfeed

@anildash also just any large public spectacle. Everyone has an opinion. And now we get to hear them ALL

@anildash she represents American beauty, being The Miss America and all. How can that *not* be controversial?

@anildash now that everyone can post on the Internet, any topic remotely controversial will generate enough racist responses for an article

@waxpancake wow, I had no freaking idea. I'll be sure to mention that in my next stripping class.

@waxpancake @DJRotaryRachel waitwaitwaitwait, the Bee Gees actually recorded something called "New York Mining Disaster 1941"?

@timbray mark of the ninja is amazing, has mac and Linux versions, part of current humble bundle.

@talking_biscuit I've probably heard whatever you're going to say a hundred different times. Tired of debunking. Go read the blog. Or don't.

@talking_biscuit @abrupto the strictness is there for a reason. The posts I referenced explained why. There's always http://t.co/623ySQYoss

@talking_biscuit @abrupto discuss it on http://t.co/1aIkfnLyVa if you have specific "GOOD" examples to refer to.

@michaelpryor N5 is gonna be awesome! I'm using N4 for testing mobile Discourse stuff, compare in screenshot here: http://t.co/c4l5RJUTym

@fody congrats.. let the fun begin!

@abrupto @talking_biscuit food for thought: http://t.co/rxly6GeNu5 http://t.co/cKa0yncp9B http://t.co/APobhR8uH5

@TonyDong3 @jeffsand maybe when you build Stack Overflow, then get back to us :)

@talking_biscuit how would that even be a programming question??

@wilshipley yeah I don't think any billionares are going to be arrested in the USA any time soon.

@wilshipley so you're saying.. you are a fan of Apple? Let me make sure I understand the nuances of your position here.

@fmanjoo colours! different colours!

@damienkatz you still have "things"? My children destroyed all ours. http://t.co/nGo3xkfyl0

@burhan They ship out every two months. Patience is advised.

@foghina sweeeeeeet. Looking like I might go that route. I wanted to wait for Android 5 but that seems really far off now.

@wilshipley I am sort of guessing they are using "spam" here as an aphorism for "hate and racist tweets"

@shrinipedia no not true. Incorrect.

@Steven_Swenson http://t.co/0GU3aquZVF

@IvanKuo_ Sorry, see email -- I really tried but nothing worked..

@nrichardson the default Intel in-box "sunburst" cooler is low profile on the T models, at least it was on the 2100T I had before!

@JTremback no, it's basically first mover advantage writ large. Even worse if it's some argumentative digression

@JTremback then it's the tyranny of the first lucky few threads that dominate, unless you scroll ALLLLL the way down.

@coletg I am not anti-reddit, it's just good at a set of things that I am not super interested in. (Digg was way, way worse.)

@coletg more seriously though http://t.co/3gCFxYENvI

@soviut no, modern broken clocks show no time, so they are right zero times a day

@soviut gems n' bullshit since 2004

@tedder42 it is very libertarian, a lot of programmers are too, and I am not. I find hard-core libertarianism very troubling.

@fmanjoo think of them as in-app purchases. problem solved

@Supermathie neti pot not helping? Medicines? DAMMIT JIM I'M JUST A DOCTOR

@nelson @timoreilly the internet is Facebook to most people, they're used to that kind of treatment.

@deadprogrammer @evil_trout http://t.co/FvjosJqGrT

@fmanjoo nowhere near as dumb as 3D but there is a point of diminishing return for 720p vs 1080p vs 2180p.. http://t.co/NMIWrM7ofa

@Greenspeak that face is so PUNCHABLE

@aggieben @jarrod_dixon We need C1NN, not C1NW. NW is the PCB mount version. Can't use that kind.

@jonelf I believe variety is very important to ergonomics -- change things up every so often, it's safer.

@fmanjoo naw, we need reminders to be skeptical of the zillions of random things we see on the Internet. CBS, NBC, ABC it ain't.

@kevindente that guy has upper management written all over him

@betsyphd if they're asking the answer is probably yes?

@timbray no, but 32-bitness is no longer interesting.

@gaberivera hey, shocking, it was actually staged.

@balpha SYNERGIES

@SamTheGeek http://t.co/8jdFHyI03h

@Stenerson see, I toldja!

@Greenspeak that show is still on? Some shows need the decency to call it while they're still sane. See: Weeds, True Blood, etc.

@NathanBowers it is better for pocketability, the iPhone 5 is a crazy ratio as well. But I agree 4:3 more flexible for a tablet.

@NathanBowers is that a Nexus 7 in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

@jzy yeah iMessage is huge. That's true.

@jzy I care for no iPhones (tired of faberge egg tinyphones), I only want new iPads.

@mattgemmell I like to focus on the things that can be fixed. Also, providing a broken platform that doesn't enforce civility is wrong.