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@bates_thomas it went a bit viral, which surprised me given the topic. There was a love/hate dynamic.. http://t.co/NHnH9ndY

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@kevinmontrose n! or GTFO

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@OmarShahine congrats; I've used it a bit now, and SkyDrive truly does not suck! (yes this is a compliment, I swear)

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@bijan @om @nickbilton every time I click through to a "protected" Twitter stream I think "this person really, really doesn't get it."

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@ironfroggy @lxcid @zedshaw if we're putting it in the same category as reading, writing, and math, let's hold it to the same standard.

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@lxcid @ironfroggy @zedshaw this logic also applies to the making of peanut butter sandwiches. Never tried it, you'll never know.

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@zedshaw and yet, he does not know how to code by now? Point proven. Thank you Zed!

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@BAoki I would prefer that they try out discovering what problems they'd love to solve, and find interesting, first. Then by all means

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@BAoki and the first line of defense is to choose not write any :) On the earliest computers, everyone *had* to be a programmer.

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@zedshaw only if you say "everyone should learn to code", which implies that people who don't/cannot learn to code are falling behind.

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@bijan try http://t.co/JpstbwvZ or asking a new Q there

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@zedshaw I believe even beginners deserve to hear both sides of the story. If the truth hurts, you should ask yourself why. That's the point

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@mathowie *gasp* children eat those donuts, sir!!

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@bradwilson @haacked @jongalloway everyone can PM! It sharpens the mind! Being a PM today is like basic literacy 300 years ago!

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@kevinmontrose monk with "use dex as armor" perk plus evade aura, he could not even touch me. Felt like cheating actually..

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@jongalloway that's because coding is a highly specialized field, like being a mechanic or a plumber. It's just not that practical for most.

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@jongalloway operating computer = driving car. Writing code is *disassembling* and *rebuilding* the car. The mechanics will rip you off!

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@jongalloway based on your text, to understand cars, you *have* to become a mechanic (write code). Can't just "read about it". Gotta do it.

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@willhains the root of all evil is premature optimization: learn it as you need it, not speculatively.

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@buildstarted @jongalloway but you can't *understand* a car without learning to be a mechanic! Changing a tire is not enough!

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@jongalloway did you also teach your daughter to work on cars, a little? :)

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@textfiles that's also true; if you want something, you should want it even after being told about the possible downsides. Be informed!

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@waxpancake @lmorchard most people need to learn how to do basic web searches first..

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@Phil_Wheeler @robconery we are lovers.

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@musingvirtual well said, and I would add that "coding" without those other things in place (somewhere!) is also extremely ineffective!

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@deadprogrammer if Bloomberg is such a long-standing tech pioneer, how does he not know how to code, even a little, by now? #hmmm

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@Zoeytrope it went into a lot.. really a LOT.. of detail. Y'know, there's a reason we don't bleed people with leeches these days.

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@ginatrapani sure, so one web page that explains what you need. perfect. Not plumbing dogma and a three day course at http://t.co/BQVZbeQp

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@kevindente and the world is awash in C programmers today! Rate of change is increasing over time.

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@avdi @pledgerwood @elland my friend just told me a plumber lived on his street in a mansion when he was growing up.

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@zedshaw you promote fear, and always have. I promote fearlessness.

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@zedshaw shrug. That's how I see it. You see it differently. I want my son to be free to learn what matters, not be told what is "important"

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@zedshaw you are the one telling my son to learn *code*, and I am the one telling him "no, go learn to read, to write, to solve problems"

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@zedshaw you're telling people what to do; that they *need* to learn coding, or they'll fall behind. That they should be afraid.

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@pilky @migueldeicaza exposing children to Brawndo also has benefits, because it has electrolytes.

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@pilky @migueldeicaza actually, I would argue all those subjects are more relevant to the mayor than code. Also computers = basic science.

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@zlapper there is, click "improve this answer" or "edit" -- or see http://t.co/JCekU4KJ

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@migueldeicaza I understand how the mayor wouldn't be able to do his job if he could not read or could not understand math. But functions?

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@michaelpryor I NEED THOSE SHARES

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@michaelpryor did you take a course at http://t.co/BQVZbeQp? Usually reading a single web page suffices for DIY toilet issues..

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@lizardbill only Blizzard does.

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@evanlong should be punishable by death

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@samsaffron NUMBER TEN USA WEBSITE, this is crazy

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@KirinDave ok but use it.. for what?

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@SuperDalgas read stats closely -- only 54% female. Kids only 2% over internet average. I don't think that's it...

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@jongalloway the acid test: "did this person electrocute elephants?"

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@Aszurom I have an account there. Email me

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@kriscoverdale no, but we started a slight degrade in old commitments to prevent "zombies" from crossing the finish line.

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@dansinker not a bad idea, but it's an issue of "art" versus "business". No *artist* should wear their own t-shirt.

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@seesharp check out geekatoo! http://t.co/6oornNHn

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@emmettnicholas Y U HATE STACKY?

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@Carnage4Life I hope you mentioned Facebook at some point

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@BradGrenz which I HAAAAAAAAAAATED, because of the ridiculousness of the premise. "Science just stopped workin', man!" Threw book away.

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@kevinmontrose "does that not fit in with your plans?"

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@Greenspeak maybe put it here then yo http://t.co/7KRtH1sz

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@Wraiyth yes that was mentioned IN THE QUESTION

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@Carnage4Life dude, get a job at Facebook already. This is embarrassing.

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@haacked by this logic, nobody should ever have children. And they're right.

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@Greenspeak what would the investor awards be? bonus penalty-free 420 days? multipass?

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@tinkertim I think you meant http://t.co/e7gzrCpv

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@jackinessity thanks for attending! I hope it was useful.

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@TheEvanCarroll definitely trivia, at best, but I don't think it's terribly off topic for DBA. We have SO questions about the C# mascot, fex

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@kevindente that is some tinfoil hat type logic man

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@jemgillam pretty sure he's four

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@noahlz covered here http://t.co/G7bTzJIC

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@mattcanhack awesome, enjoy!

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@EdgeCaseApp awesome! Now where is my windows version? :)

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@starbuxman eek! Ask Alex of the daily wtf!

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@TheEvanCarroll you are a national treasure.

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@coridrew heh, I had forgotten about that animation. But yes, exactly!

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@waxpancake @anildash it sure would make a great article FOR THE PEOPLE!

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@divi multiple credentials, man! we support an unlimited number. That said, myopenid is Amazon EC2 hosted, usually it's EC2 related

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@waxpancake @anildash If it's the "only one you know" this is more appropriate for you to write about in your Wired column, don't you think?

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@waxpancake @anildash you guys should have been using your Klout (omglol) to kick whatever necessary asses at Twitter HQ to change this.

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@waxpancake @anildash this makes ThinkUpApp kind of, uh, useless? #imjustsayin

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@mojombo Mostly I try to scare other parents, because I feel nobody is really honest enough on this topic. Hardest job I've ever had. By far

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@waxpancake @anildash helpful, but if I am not a resident of the EU, I'm just f**ked? http://t.co/n3ozacJG

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@mojombo depends on your tolerance for pain + the kid's disposition (all are different). General "magic" age where things get easy is four.

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@danwood I assume you mean David? He's a good man!

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@Brad_Strickland it is not small

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@alexwlchan @siracusa source needed, I tried to attribute here but not happy with my results http://t.co/PvBULyYZ

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@ivoflipse5 I don't really have a question about it, it's just an observation.

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@mojombo you are having a child, yes? If so you are doing it right. Travel now, as much as possible, birthday is 2 year lockdown *minimum*

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@anildash I like extras in theory but with 3 kids and 2 careers I barely have time for the main feature. Pop up video integrated style?

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@fquednau they think of the machines as the automated food source, not you. Less sitting on your head at 5am trying to wake you up & get fed

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@dehora @murf @intercom @destraynor still a silo; customers should be talking to each other, and you, in public