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@animexcom Perception issue: sometimes you don't get progress indicators in full screen with IE10. Web ain't instant.
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@kevindente I'm sure iPad keyboard covers can be good (I want to get one) but there is a big difference when it is first party designed-in
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@kevindente I don't think you understand. Imagine holding the tablet with the keyboard on the back. It's "open" but shouldn't be active.
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@kevindente small example. How does a random bluetooth keyboard cover communicate to the iPad that it is "wrapped around" vs "open"?
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@kevindente mainly because it was designed in from day zero, not delivered by an unrelated third party.
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@wilshipley most icons should change, and the ones you care about most would be on your homepage. Maybe even on the lock screen.
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@wilshipley ok fine. Front page of NYTimes, reviewed by Wil Shipley: "What are all these stories about totally different things? INSANITY!"
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@jonoabroad @wilshipley look, the Twitter verified people are tryna talk here. Do you even exist if you're not Twitter verified?
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@wilshipley like the front page of, say, Reddit? Or Hacker news? OH GOD WORDS FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT SOURCES <head explodes>
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@wilshipley yeah, imagine having a screen covered in FUCKING INFORMATION. Oh my god, the horror. HIDE THE CHILDREN
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@wilshipley well except that blue square would contain THE ACTUAL FUCKING TEXT OF THE LAST EMAIL YOU GOT. Versus y'know, 73 degrees, sunny.
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@alxknt pretty much, since laptops are all boring-ass clones of MacBook Pros now anyway.
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@seesharp that looks awweeesssooommeee
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@cdixon ... Come out to plaaaay-ayyyy!!
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@RockBand I have a 2k+ Rock Band DLC library, and here's how I listen to it while I work in "jukebox" mode! http://t.co/92uVVVXo
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@RockBandAide just FYI, I got an endless jukebox mode finally going (I have almost 2k tracks in RB), here's how: http://t.co/92uVVVXo
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@Hanzo55 dude you may need to cut down on the drugs
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@marcprecipice https://t.co/nu3cshoW (only joking, we love Busytown too! Lowly worm!)
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@MrAlanCooper check on http://t.co/1DepiTaJ to be sure; they are experts at debunking and researching
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@seesharp nice I hope it was useful / interesting!
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@kevinmontrose be careful with the "native" Twitter apps on Surface. I saw some of them use a whole lot of CPU (Tweetro).
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@kylembrandt agreed, but tomorrow morning peak traffic might bring.. surprises
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@kylembrandt perfect timing!
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@gruber I'm just trying to help make sure Markdown, the concept, is still alive when the rest of us... aren't. Isn't that the point?
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@huyduc working great for me. I love mine. Still a v1 device but like the 2010 iPad 1, which is now 100% obsolete, harbinger of future.
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@intepid scroll back in my tweets and I posted a picture of me doing it.
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@intepid I used it on my lap to type about 20 tweets so far. At about 80% of full keyboard speed. Still many times faster than OSK.
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@kevinmontrose go buy some more damn chopsticks. The things are like 1 cent each.
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@NathanBowers well it is pretty immediately delightful to me. Mostly because touch + folding keyboard works so well, and is so portable.
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@NathanBowers I remember @timbray telling people on-screen keyboards would never work either. I just typed the SHIT out of this in my lap.
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@NathanBowers Surface is not a "I tried it for 10 minutes and here's my snap judgment" system ala @marcoarment; you gotta live with it a bit
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@NathanBowers I am typing this in my lap and I'm easily 80% as fast on this as a real keyboard. Takes a few hours to get it down.
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@NathanBowers you have clearly never seen a toddler trigger the hell out of notification center, 4 finger swipe, etc.
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@NathanBowers I can demo it for you. Working amazingly well here. But that default I described is bad, did not see it on in Win8 before.
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@NathanBowers I am 99% sure it's that weird "grab prev app from left" setting. Specific to Surface; I turned it off. Agree it is not good.
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@NathanBowers swipe-from-sides work great for me. One bad default: they set swipe-from-left to default to "grab previous app" which suuucks.
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@NathanBowers which gestures? the only ones I think are too difficult are the "remove app" one and the "select a tile" one.
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@romero congrats! She's a keeper!!
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@NathanBowers you cannot use ClearType when displays are rotated by definition. So no. Typed from a surface keyboard.
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@gruber I just wanted a response yea or nay with maybe 1 para of elaboration. That did not seem unreasonable.
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@NathanBowers it's not retina or even retinaesque. That plus lack of apps only valid criticisms. Whole thing is much better than I expected.
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@migueldeicaza @marcoarment they probably trained at the same facility for the iPad mini. At this point non retina anything is a bummer.
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@cgarmstrong @NathanBowers wow you have 2gb 720p videos instantly accessible via icloud? And offline too for car use with children? Amazing!
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@NathanBowers fair point, but I'd think of it as a media drive -- here are all my photos, videos, documents, etc
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@vmg I have contact with github, reddit, meteor. email me!
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@JeffChausse @NathanBowers and even more of a screwover as time goes on. Typed from a soft Surface cover in my lap. Super fast.
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@jongalloway your actions indicate you are worked up about it. I didn't take you for a ragequitter.
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@jongalloway @kevindente @johnsheehan so long as you're actually doing research and not just posting opinions, nothing to worry about.
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@johnolilly at least there's an obvious "eject" button on the front of device for home. Not there on Nexus 7 (soft button) or Kindle Fire.
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@johnolilly I do, but I think enthusiasm for Desktop Mode is in direct proportion to how many other Wintel PCs you have on your network..
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@rknLA @gilesgoatboy welcome to Giles' world. Enjoy your visit!
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@migueldeicaza oh yeah that was total BS, of course. It's not awful at its current res or anything, but small fonts definitely suffer.
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@NathanBowers IE10 runs Tie Fighter project faster than Chrome and Firefox. Seriously.
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@ClarkGoble Metro mail is pretty bad. You're right. It is servicable but barely.
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@migueldeicaza it's definitely not great, but that's the physics of it. Mostly noticable on websites, not so much in Metro apps.
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@iSaadSalman keyboard for one thing. it works! also office, etc.
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@DrPizza that's not a ding on rt, that's the standard Strategy Tax bullshit
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@mathowie did you try RB3 pro keys? Great tutorials. An abbreviated keyboard (not full 88 keys) but same principles http://t.co/tby6zw4D
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@owzim it's just Chrome. Firefox and IE do a lot better. Chrome on Windows is awful for rendering now.
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@jpaulellis @ryantate claims, shmaims. Show us the products. Ship them. Put them in our hands. Or even point me to where I can buy them
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@daniel_nitsche you can import all the dc1 and dc2 tracks for five bucks. Plus the code in the manual sleeve...
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@jeffreyremick @siracusa @9to5mac cheapest with cellular is $459. I was never interested in an iPad mini anyway, this just cements the deal
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@DrPizza can you point me to a single atom based device I can buy right now that is even competitive? I can't.
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@DrPizza yes, there are so MANY atom based devices to choose from on the market now! Also, Atom languished hard, desultory updates at best.
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@NathanBowers @jongalloway it was also godawfully brutally slow, though, with Edge + slow CPU. Depends on task. 3GS onward clearer wins.
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@siracusa lighter? I'm buying it anyway. I have a need.. a need for 2x speed..
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@kevindente @jongalloway not enough reality distortion field. It's a "tweener" tech. Not best perf, not best price.
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@kevinmontrose $1k for 2.3 Ghz, two generic 1TB 2.5" drives, and 4GB RAM? You could probably run, like, five Facebooks on that server.
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@joshmillard @waxpancake what? no. Super Monday Night Combat (FPS - MOBA) is amazing. The genre is solid. http://t.co/e23kiaxm
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@seesharp I am only a noob at fog! Check the Halloween event forum fanatics! (I know this exists without looking.. Has to)
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@ryantate well she certainly knows how babby is formed now
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@baconmeteor it is the only good squash. I am serious.
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@NathanBowers iOS 6 is buggy as hell, that's for sure. I've seen a reboot on rearranging icons, for example...
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@NathanBowers it's complicated. iPhone 5 CPU uses more power. But goes to idle faster, and *is* faster: http://t.co/GNWdskHm
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@troygilbert @siracusa "This size isn't sufficient to create great tablet apps in our opinion." http://t.co/v6bXV8pk
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@jamiedasilva @siracusa EXCEPT I AM DOLLY PARTON. I just want to be clear on that point.
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@siracusa one problem with Apple perfecting the hardware (iPad 3+, iPhone 5) it really highlights how terrible Apple can be at software
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@siracusa that will be nice. iPad with retina has reached near-ideal form; the only place they *can* go is thinner, lighter, faster.
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@siracusa <stifles a yawn> yeah.
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@siracusa I'd also add this is the rare case of Apple copying the competition rather than leading. This is never a good strategy.
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@scottw neither one matters any more. Desktop operating systems are Big Rig Trucks. http://t.co/q2D7zAcD
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@siracusa meh, not retina or even retina-esque, just a larger iPod touch. Not very interesting to me. And rumored to be expensive at $329
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@weemundo computers used to cost like $2k minimum back in, geez, 1993. Before adjusting for inflation!!
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@evil_trout is it like, one shared spoon? Good for strong immune systems!!
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@mklin I don't think you read all my tweets on the matter, look earlier
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@evil_trout it is no According to Jim
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@JackGavigan more options is good. Depends what you are building, but for interpreted lang, I find cloud options are uniformly poor perf.
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@gknauss may I recommend GUIDs? Meet my friend 0a25af5e-1252-4502-94e1-e5664d55176d. But his friends call him 1252.
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@ghewgill oh now you're going to rile up and anger @NathanBowers with those careless words. I agree partially, they are BEST at consuming.
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@jongalloway no proper keyboard to type it on. So painful on touchscreen beyond 1 short para.