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@Pinboard @michelleimiller "This policy does not apply to military or government entities" https://t.co/NEMUN9y5Zb

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@betsyphd @wilshipley dammit shipley

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@dansdata this is HILARIOUSLY bad

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@Supermathie had one last night, it is earthquake-proof!

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@leahculver Good old Meth Damon

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@vincentriemer seriously???!?

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@Greenspeak "Thank you god for making all of this happen" https://t.co/vX7A7Q72VM

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@Pinboard we should also complain about this on The Facebooks

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@textfiles well that's considerably less fun

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@Greenspeak I just wanted you to know that we think about you from time to time https://t.co/RsOCEsH8IW

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@chowspecial Is there a difference?

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@_askcarter @EricaJoy I need to die

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@danhulton @Beschizza Which one was this? Situational

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@tylerlanecodes @Beschizza Nothing specific other than “everyone gets a second chance?” But I see the moral implications are too severe

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@kylembrandt It is specific to 4K gaming, you need 1080ti for that

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@kylembrandt Everything is so insanely fast and good these days it barely matters. You do need a fancy gpu for 4K gaming though

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@Supermathie Not this? https://t.co/NWk9kTx4dT

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@Beschizza ... but now I do. *Zero* tolerance for racism, regardless of whether you are some random drive by account or a longtime community member.

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@Beschizza ... wondering if that was too severe, should there be a single chance? He said no. I wasn’t sure I agreed then...

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@Supermathie Is it one of ours?

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@Carnage4Life @anildash @thoughtspooler @yburyug @marcprecipice Hmmm. Not sure what to do about that, then.

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@Carnage4Life @anildash @thoughtspooler @yburyug @marcprecipice We need to out these people and destroy them. Racism is unacceptable in any form.

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@haley @EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice per the first article, it was. Seattle Nazis went to a white nationalist meeting. Question is: how common is this?

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@TashasEv @EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice Racism is 100% unacceptable in any form, to be clear. That is the thing to fight against, not "seattle nazis".

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@doctaphred Believe me, I wish Jeff Atwood wasn’t here more than anyone else.

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@Yung501c3 @EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice My greatest regret is that I am unable to die on any of them. Life is interminably long.

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@marcprecipice @EricaJoy @buster I support racists being called out in public and silenced, is my point. Sorry if unclear

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@EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice I don’t dispute in any way that racism and sexism exist and are huge ongoing problems.

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@iccananea @EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice There is a credible incorrect naive answer here. Every human life is valuable, right?

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@riking27 @EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice Sorry if I wasn’t clear. At any rate of statistical significance higher than self identifying as a “terrorist”

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@EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice Screening for racism, and sexism, sure. Like I said ask them what “all lives matter” means.

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@EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice Eg the “Seattle Nazi” article that kicked this off. Screening for literal nazis is not an actual real world risk.

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@EricaJoy @KristyT @buster @marcprecipice I do not disbelieve that racism and sexism are problems. I specifically disbelieve that people are self identifying as white nationalists

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@KristyT @EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice If anyone I know ever says bullshit like “black people have lower IQs” they will be outed in public and terminated immediately.

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@eaton @EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice Zero tolerance on statements like “black people have lower IQs”. Public outing and termination. Immediate.

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@EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice That’s awful, these people should have been outed and terminated immediately.

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@EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice White supremacy is a bit like being labeled a child molester, the social stigma is massive.

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@EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice To be clear Damore didn’t say anything about white supremacy in his manifesto. But others at Google did?

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@EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice I find it hard to believe people who identify as white nationalists work at Google. I dn find it hard to believe that racism/sexism exists

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@eaton @EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice These people should be terminated and publicly outed as white nationalists.

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@EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice Incredible, so sorry to hear that. These people should be terminated and outed as white nationalists in public.

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@EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice You have access to evidence of white nationalists at Google? Are there any at Slack?

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@joelxhooper @EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice To be clear — per the original tweet, policies and codes to combat white nationalists, aka Seattle Nazis

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@EricaJoy @buster @marcprecipice This is in the context of white nationalists, per the original tweet. So you are saying policies and codes are useless in this case?

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@Carnage4Life @yburyug @anildash @marcprecipice I do not think the average reader perusing a Lock Up Clinton article there thinks of themselves as a white nationalist

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@gretared @buster @marcprecipice I agree that sexism is everywhere but this idea that every coworker is a possible white nationalist is one I have trouble with

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@xor It is both but the idea that people were pure vessels of thought pre internet feels very wrong to me

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@anildash @thoughtspooler @yburyug @marcprecipice The danger is Out There for terrorism as well. How likely is it? What is the purpose of instilling fear in others?

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@Agile_Hulk Have you .. actually done this?

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@yburyug @anildash @marcprecipice Damore was an idiot but a white nationalist? I think that's a pretty big stretch

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I have now banished these headphones to the outside of the house

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@secretGeek @jasonvizmanos I make bad decisions! I've explained this OVER and OVER

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@anildash @marcprecipice which companies and who are these people? Can you show me?

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@buster @marcprecipice I'm confident company policies and codes of conduct actually work. I also believe in trusting your coworkers until behavior proves otherwise

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@buster @marcprecipice Not sure, but fear seems to be the product on offer here, and I'm not a fan

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@buster @marcprecipice How many Nazis work at Google, exactly? James Damore was an idiot (not a Nazi?), and got fired, so that leaves..

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@Kelly_Clowers @xor right the "fox news ruined my parents" argument. also true I think, but we didn't know other people nearly as well pre-internet

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@xor it isn't that people are getting far out of the mainstream, it's that we have keen penetrating insight into what other humans ARE thinking

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@xor I have kind of a different take on this. It's the fact that we actually *know* our neighbors now that's so scary. https://t.co/h45z1BTBew

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I am sure a very nice older person, with a penchant for perfume, gently pre-owned these.

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@marcprecipice Ask them how they feel about the phrase “all lives matter” as a litmus test

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@ChiefScientist @tqbf @marcprecipice This is my point re: hacker news. At Stack Overflow less than 30% of traffic was USA. You think internet crank programmers all from USA?

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@maybekatz @tqbf @marcprecipice I think this is only possible at large companies where people don’t know each other very well.

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@tqbf @marcprecipice I can keep going if you want

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@tqbf @marcprecipice The fact that I know the 18 people that work at Discourse personally, and follow all of them on social media?

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@tqbf @marcprecipice Discussion of current events and news? Our company policies which directly contradict what they believe?

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@JohnONolan @AirAsia Omg that is awful

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@ChiefScientist @tqbf @marcprecipice It was a wapo article and they were pissed. Point is, America has no monopoly on racism, far from it. HN is worldwide.

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@tqbf @marcprecipice The number of super overtly racist Polish programmers who mailed me after I mentioned Poland’s Trump parallels was .. surprising

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@tqbf @marcprecipice I think this scary idea that secretly you work with closed white supremacists is actually more harmful

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@tqbf @marcprecipice They would have zero comments on company policies or the last year of news insanity? Forward for years? Nobody is a perfect sleeper cell

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@tqbf @marcprecipice Unless your company is enormous, 200 plus people, you’d have enough interactions to know. Plus sane company policies would grate on them

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@tqbf @marcprecipice I can state with absolute 100% certainty there is nobody like this at Discourse or Stack Overflow. Absolutely.

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@tqbf @marcprecipice Hacker news covers the whole world, so yeah, lots of weird places to work in the.. uh.. world

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@marcprecipice I doubt these kinds of people could tolerate working at any company you would start or work for, they would be at weird places

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@marcprecipice I would imagine this is still quite rare in the big scheme of things

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@Geordie1977 oh my god this would be incredible

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@Siyfion this really does not seem like a hard programming problem. No enemies nearby, no enemies in scope in last 60 secs, teamkill = kick

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@Siyfion so count enemy scope time. no enemies in scope in last 60 secs.. teamkill

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@capitainemousse ok, teamkill when no enemies and no active vehicles nearby. This seems automatable.

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@notwaldorf @FronteersConf that is nice, very striking

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@kyleballard @migueldeicaza Qualcomm is one of history’s greatest monsters

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@JasonPunyon For the LEAVES, Jason! FOR THE LEAVES!

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@migueldeicaza @siegel Sounds plausible

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@DavidHodge @migueldeicaza huh those don't get put in iCloud?